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and 7:00 eastern for more "hardball. "countdown with keith olbermann" starts right now. which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? the bill? the first vote? cloture, saturday night, about 8:00? the childish republican threat, read it aloud. senator coburn may back off. the childish republican complaint? not so much. >> it's 2,074 pages. give me a break. >> and no pictures. the democrats hit back. the bill reduced to normal print would be as long as sarah palin's book. now available for $4.97. >> we reach out to our republican colleagues. we would like to work with them. but everyone should understand we're going to do a bill. >> but is there enough "there" there? our special guest, senator sheldon whitehouse. congressman anthony weiner, insurance industry whistleblower, wendell potter. the anti-defamation league
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crowns a new fearmonger in chief. >> this president i think has exposed himself as a guy over and over and over again who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture. >> and suddenly the fearmonger in chief's boss is denying he ever defended the fearmonger in chief. >> on the racist thing that caused a racket but he did make a very racist comment. >> mr. murdoch could be more clear about what racist comment the president allegedly made? >> i deny that absolutely. >> but you did agree -- the ex-governor finally answers the question, just one year and 51 days after katie couric asked it. >> i read the news max and the "frontiersman" and "wall street journal" and everything online. >> the indoor football team that's going to play in wasilla. that's below the ad for the free copy of the book and up and to the left from the other ad for the other free copy of the book. all that and more now on "countdown." >> the huntin' and the fishin' and the hockey mom.
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good evening from new york. republicans have been claiming that in 2,074 pages, the senate health care reform bill is longer tolstoy's "war and peace," longer than harry potter's books, longer than the king james bible, but when the democrats point out once you adjust to the size of an actual book, it's about the same size as the sarah palin memoir, which runs 413 pages. our fifth story in the "countdown," more substantial republican arguments at killing reform obliterated from the congressional budget analysis of the bill. you recall when majority leader reid unveiled the score from the cbo deficit recited as $127 billion in savings over ten years. after that, it gets better. the cbo projecting even greater
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savings, up to $650 billion over the ten years to follow. the number of americans covered, 94%. but actually senate democrats claiming now almost 98% of all legal residents of all ages will be covered under the merged senate bill. as we mentioned, senate democrats also claiming the bill's 2,000 page length is deceptive. alaska democrat mark begich telling reporters today, it's about the same as the sarah palin book without all the fancy type. sure, senator, but which one is the better read? depends, he says, if you want substance or not. house minority leader boehner doesn't like something that long without pictures in it or without a provision defining spray tanning as fully reimbursed medical procedure. >> this is over a trillion dollars. it's the same nonsense that passed the house. it's 2,074 pages. give me a break. the american people have soundly rejected this. and i told you several months ago how popular it was. it's as popular as a garlic milkshake. >> thank you for that clear and compelling analysis in rerun form. as for the new stuff, the
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congressman claiming that the senate bill would have all americans paying, quote, a monthly abortion fee, which is not just false, it's absurd. back in the real world as roll call points out the senate bill includes language to make sure abortions are not paid for with federal taxes. further, plans would pay only to make sure the money is segregated to make sure federal funds are not being used. call it stupak-light. the senate majority leader disputing the lie this afternoon. >> first of all, this is a health care bill. it's not an abortion bill. and the language we have in the bill -- i think it's something that is in keeping with what the tradition has been in our country for more than 30 years. >> this afternoon, the majority leader filing for health care bill cloture, which means the senate will vote on whether to proceed to debate. that would be this saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. saturday night, procedural motions on the senate floor. sounds like a party to me. conservative democrat evan bayh told the publication the hill today he will vote yea to
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proceed to debate. senator ben nelson hinting yesterday he would do the same. senator coburn backing off his threat to have the entire bill read out loud to delay debate. he exchanged that for a full day of debate on saturday before the evening vote on whether or not debate can officially begin. ah, the senate. lots to talk about with sheldon whitehouse, democrat of rhode island, until recently a member of the health education and pensions committee, better known as the h.e.l.p. commit tier, where he and senator brown wrote the full national public option in the committee draft of the bill. senator, thanks for your time tonight. >> good to be with you, keith. >> the opt-out. the cbo guesses it will end up with a third of the population being opted out by states by legislative action in the states. can you live with that? >> i think it's unfortunate, but i think the important thing is that the public option gets a foothold, because the public
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option is the device through which the private insurance industry is going to be held to account. it's going to be the device that takes the innovative, really experimental, bold steps to improve the quality of care and the way in which we deliver health care in this country. and i think once a few get going and a few get doing it right, we'll find that there's a very big interest in following behind. because this is really important. >> of course, that won't happen immediately. the timetable of this, the public option in the house bill would not go into effect until 2013 and in the senate bill not until 2014. a lot of people have to suffer even under optimum circumstances? >> unfortunately, that's the way it is. if there's a way to accelerate it, particularly if states show a willingness to step up sooner than that, i hope we can work with them to do that. but for now, this is where the bill is. and i think it's important that we get it passed and work on it going forward. >> that's something i've not heard before. maybe my fault. is there a process by which states could start early? >> there's generally a waiver
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process relating to a great number of the federal programs that provide health care in the states, and i'm confident that under this administration, we'd be able to work with the leadership, if we had a good plan that stood up. >> the politics of this internally, senator bayh says he will vote for cloture. senator pryor says he'll vote for cloture and senator ben nelson hinted yesterday he'll vote for cloture. do you think the democrats have now averted a filibuster fight at the start of this? >> i think so. i think that there may be a last few wrinkles for majority leader reid and for his leadership team to iron out. but i think we can be very confident about the vote. i don't want to say 100% but very confident. >> we get a sense -- and a lot of this comes from the hatch version of the stupak amendment in the house, what republicans want to do with their amendments
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in that process apart from continuing to stall this as long as they can. what do you want to do with your amendment? >> i think there's going to be some important amendments to get aired with respect to the pharmaceutical industry. i don't know why we should preserve a situation in which americans pay more for the exact same pharmaceutical product than canadians do just over the border. i think it would be good to fill the doughnut hole completely and allow the government to negotiate freely with the pharmaceutical industry rather than have to take whatever price they impose. so i think some of those things are important. frankly, i think we'll have a good debate on the public option. i believe once everybody has had a chance to air their views and be heard and voted on, that will increase people's familiarity with these programs and their support for the bill. it's one thing to be against a bill when you haven't had your views aired. it's another thing to get a full hearing, everything you need to say said, a vote on your proposal and then not vote for it just to be a spoil sport.
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that's a much more difficult position. >> do you think at the end of this, the process by which insurers can avoid some of the more rigorous state laws by migrating to places where it's business first, last and always, that provision here might somehow be excised or toned down to control them a little bit better? >> i think that it's important to control the insurance industry in that respect. we saw when we let the credit card industry migrate to the states with the worst consumer protection programs where it ended up, with all those tricks and traps and the credit card contract 20 pages long, with 30% interest rates, with a filing date that they deemed ended at 10:30 in the morning and didn't open the mail until 11:00 so they could catch people's mail that came in that day. all that nonsense happens when you let there be a race to the bottom. >> democrat of rhode island, we'll be thinking of you on saturday night. many thanks. >> thank you.
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>> for the perspective from the other side of the capitol, to congressman andy weiner of new york. thanks for your time. you have pushed for single pair for medicare for all, for a health care system of that nature from the start. about as far away from an opt-out public compromise you could get failing any bill passing. how do you feel what's become of the public option in this merged bill? >> it's not everything i like but it lives. we reached a period a couple of months ago where people said it was dead and dead for good. i launched a health care website. i have 130,000 people that signed up and said let's have the public option. you have to be careful what you wish for when people say they want an opt-out provision. that means we'll go to every state and have this battle? i'm not sure i mind. i think some of the red state republicans might not know what they're getting into. so long as there is a public option people can get into, so long as the competition exists, we'll have an opportunity to see what works. i doubt very many governors will
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opt out. so i'm not nearly afraid as a lot of people are. >> had you heard and have you heard are you encouraged by something else he mentioned the prospect as that opt-out is left in, there could be opt-ins, that some states could go early on this? >> i would like that to be the case. the senate bill is structured different from the house. we have one national public option that's a little different in the senate bill. but the most important thing in here is as we move incrementally towards the goal line, is that we let the majority rule. the real concern i have is in the senate. you have one or two, three people who say i'm not going to allow there to be a vote on these. then you're not allowing democracy to work. as long as we have a chance for the bill to go through and people have a majority rule in the senate and house, i'm convinced the american people will get the bill that they want or at least not the one that they don't want, which is one without a public option. >> you have, since this has been passed -- you and i have not had a chance to talk about some of the particulars here. can you explain how the stupak
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amendment happened? because i would have never managed something like that could get through a democratic majority congress. >> the simple fact of the matter is we're a pro-choice country with a pro life majority in congress. it's a small group of democrats made the decision, a regrettable one to give control of the floor of the house to the republicans in this case. i think it was unnecessary. and i think it's got to be stripped out. remember what's in the senate bill, the hyde amendment is not perfect. a lot of us who believe in a woman's right to choose don't like it very much, but it's kind of a cold piece we have on this. says no federal funds will go towards abortions. now with the stupak amendment, not even private insurance plans that are in that exchange are going to be able to offer them. that is going way too far. >> you said stripped out, it should be stripped out. do you think it will be? >> i hope so. the sad truth of the matter is the anti-choice forces in the house have the votes, and we're hopeful we can persuade them to
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try to do this as a health care bill, we should not deny people health care. it's ironic -- republican friends say we don't want to let government come between people and their doctors except in this case and except for women. it really is another case of hypocrisy. >> there's a second version of that, since we're comparing the senate and house approaches to health care reform. your chamber approved the doc fix for medicare today, which avoids this 21% cut in medicare payments to doctors starting month after next. it is said that has no chance of passing the senate. is this thing going to die on the vine in the house? >> i think it would -- no, we passed it in the house today. i'm glad we did. we're trying to put pressure on the senate to do the same. one reason medicare is a successful program is not that doctors get wealthy on the reimbursement rates but a good steady income and it doesn't have the high overhead and all the problems. medicare rates are too low. we fixed it in the house. hopefully the senate will do the same thing. >> representative anthony weiner of new york. as always, thanks, congressman. >> thank you. that's the house and the senate.
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what about the third branch that governs our nation? of course by that i mean the insurance industry. breaking down this bill and what the cartel will do about it and to whom, whistleblower wendell potter next. come on! that's pretty far. doc, look who's in town. ellen! copenhagen? cool, right? vacation. but still seeing patients. oh. [ whispering ] workaholic. i heard that. she said it. i... [ female announcer ] the new office. see it. live it. share it. on the human network. cisco.
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a new senate bill does more for americans than many observers predicted. but does it give our endangered insurance overlords the help they so desperately need? rest easy, america. the president of the industry lobbying group america's health insurance plans or ahip released a statement tonight saying they just hate the new bill in the senate. why? for one thing, it only has minor penalties for people who do not buy insurance. big shocker. insurance companies love the part of the law that forces you to buy insurance. they want the most painful punishment possible for not buying insurance. we have stockades left over from the 17th, 18th century, don't we? what do they get from the senate bill? because the public option will draw all the sick people who can't get insurance, public option premiums will be higher than private premiums. not much competition there. courting conservative democrats, senator harry reid gave states the option to opt out, but because the public option would not kick in until 2014, maybe 2013, insurance companies have four years to buy and bully local legislators into rejecting
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the public option. the congressional budget office guesses a third will have no access to the public option meaning a third will have to buy private insurance. but wait, there's more. the senate bill lets health insurers sell nationwide plans. so what, you ask? as we suggested with senator whitehouse, now insurance companies can move to states like texas, where governors like rick perry let them rip off customers around the country. no longer will consumers be protected by or insurance companies bothered by the laws of their own state. a former health insurance executive, wendell potter now senior fellow at the center for media and democracy. great thanks for your time. ahip put out the statement criticizing senate bill. does that mean they hate all of it or just want more in it? >> they just want more in it. they don't like a lot of it. they don't like the public
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option although it's weaker and certainly the opt-out will be something they'll try to exploit as the focus shifts to the states. they don't like, as you noted, the fact that the penalties are not nearly as severe as they think they should be as they force people to buy their products. they don't like the additional regulations and accountability that's in the bill. so there's a lot they don't like. but they like a lot of it. they like the idea of having a lot more revenue. they just like to make sure it's a little bit more to their liking than it currently is. >> other than the obvious point that they have four years to get ready for this, if states can opt out and insurance companies have four years before the option kicks in, how else does that benefit the insurance industry? >> well, it gives them the time to try to weaken the public option to the point that it would be really emasculated. and that's exactly what they'll try to do. in fact, they're already doing that. they're working at the state level with the candidates running for governor in various
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states to try to get them to already begin to speak out against the public option. they don't want to have any new competition. they want to have the field all to themselves and everyone required to buy their policies and the federal government -- and that means taxpayers' dollars to the amount of $500 billion over ten years flowing into their treasuries. >> can you assess from the industry from which you used to work whether or not they are expecting that this is going to end up with a public option and that their best bet is either to go and buy the local politicians or prepare to back candidates who are willing to roll this back in 2010, 2012, 2014 even? >> the first option will be to try to kill it completely. they want to try to get it out of the bill. they've already over the past months outspent the advocates for reform 2 to 1. you'll see that a lot over the next few weeks. a lot of advertising particularly in the states where there are democrats, in particular, who haven't pledged their allegiance yet to the public option. >> explain in some detail here why insurance companies pushed
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for this power to sell the nationwide plans that i just mentioned. >> because they want to be able to go to the states with the least amount of regulations. they don't like regulations. they don't like the mandates because they make less money when they are required to cover certain things. so if they can go to a state that has very few consumer protections and the fewest mandates, they can sell those same policies that they create there in any state regardless of what the regulations are. so, in other words, they can sell policies that have very, very meager consumer protections in states like new york and other says and california in particular that have over many years worked to make sure the consumers are protected from the bad practices of these companies. >> a lot of people responded optimistically to what the senate passed in terms that senate democrats passing this final piece of legislation at least among themselves and now taking it to the floor and presumably getting cloture on saturday night now proceeding to the actual debate and perhaps not having to water this down
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that much more. even having said that, if this bill in the senate passes as it is written now, will the insurance companies think it's a victory for them? >> at the end of the day, i think they will, because they know that they can circumvent regulations. even the new regulations are going to be things that they will look at and try to figure out how they can make money. that's one thing they know how to do is make money, regardless of what the competitive or regulatory environment is like. >> if there's one thing that you've seen or not seen in the senate bill that you would change, what would it be? >> i would remove the opt-out and allow a lot more people to be eligible for it right off the bat and move the implementation of it up much sooner. >> i was surprised to hear senator whitehouse say there could be opt-ins, in other words, states could come online if they wanted to do it and waive certain start dates for some of the procedures in the senate bill, anyway. did you know about that? is that encouraging? >> that's encouraging. i didn't know about that. i didn't know there would be a mechanism in place that quickly
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to allow an opt-in or creation of a public plan. that would be good if that could happen. >> we'll see if it does. wendell potter, insurance industry whistleblower at the center for media and democracy. whoever coined the phrase there are no easy answers here might have been talking about health care reform or perhaps they might have asked sarah palin what news sources do you read? she has finally figured out what to say to a relevant question first asked of her on september 29th, 2008. that and the anti-defamation league crowning a new fearmonger in chief. his initials are lonesome roads. national car rental? that's my choice.
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bests in a moment. and were you married in texas? hey, it might not be legal. first on this date in the year 461, the sardinian archdeacon of rome elected to the church's highest office and for six years with all respect to the faithful, there was pope hilarious. hilarious was later canonized as saint hilarious and the patron saint of the knock knock joke. let's play "oddball." i'm sorry. i'm sorry for everybody who believes in st. hilarious. beijing where this hairdresser creating his work of art. it turns out this masterpiece bears an uncanny resemblance to barack obama. instead of throwing away customers' hair after a cut he sculpted it into a likeness of our 44th president. you may remember his first work tiananmen hair discovered on this show.
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the obama sculpture went prematurely gray. in france where the new edict is when the metaphor call hampster wheel of life isn't enough for you, you can stay in a bed of hay and an exercise wheel. you may have seen this video all over your local news but i don't know if anybody let you in on the inside joke. this is being portrayed as some sort of silly french gag or novelty hotel. uh-uh. there are adults who like to dress up in animal suits and then go to hotels with other adults dressed up in animal suits. i'm sorry, it's true. i know monty python did a sketch about this in 1969 about men dressed up as mice. doesn't make it less true. continental hamster breakfast included. the fearmonger in chief. wow, i never even called lonesome roads beck that. why is rupert murdoch denying what he said on tape about his reporter.
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sarah palin answers what news sources she reads. only took her 416 days to gather her list. dateline new york, number three, best total inability to understand the first amendment, bill o. with his superior mind and many advanced degrees and major awards, you'd think he'd know better. but ripping into richard cohen on the southern poverty law center for advocated cnn's firing of lou dobbs, he said -- bill, seriously? freedom of speech? did the government come in and shut lou dobbs down? because that's denial of free speech. everything else is just journalistic decision or business one. by the way, bill's misunderstanding of freedom of speech permits us to remind you he promised to donate $10,000 in cohen's name if dobbs was fired for the birther crap. there's no real bet there, he said.
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he's not going to get fired. best repeated self revelation, the tape room at fixed news. another story about big crowds supporting another lunatic fringe thing that even most republicans don't support. the first time it was the white power rally at the capitol and showed another video from another rally that had ten times the attendance. now this video over which the news actor read sarah palin continued to draw huge crowds while promoting her brand new book. these are some of the pictures just coming in to us. the lines that formed this morning were from a palin rally during last year's presidential campaign. either fox made an identical mistake that happened to benefit the fringers twice in one week or they did it deliberately. and dateline houston, hello. number one best comeuppance. barbara ann radnofsky, democrat candidate for attorney general in texas. she found something interesting in subsection "b" of the 2005 constitutional amendment supposed to ban same-sex marriage or civil unions in that
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state. yep, among the possible legal statuses that are identical or similar to marriage would not just be gay marriage but straight marriage. oops. so marriage might not be legal in texas. i understand john ensign and john sanford are moving there immediately. teachers and students.
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the ugly environment was not fostered overnight, but town hall opposition to health care reform and tea bagger rallies gave comfort to racism and even sbimations of violence. the birther movement was nothing more than extreme and desperate attempt to delegitimize a new president. congressman joe wilson's "you lie," though a first should not have been a surprise. a sweeping new report on anti-government rage in america
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not only connects the dots but refuses to let off the hook the most irresponsible voice in the mainstream media, the man it describes as the fearmonger in chief, glenn beck. simply stated, beck creates an intersection between the mainstream and the extreme, according to the report by the anti-defamation league. it calls beck, quote -- beck has compared obama to adolf hitler. one of his guests claimed obama was trying to create a security force. he once supported the theory fema was building concentration camps to house dissidents. he eventually backed away from it, but he's consistently posed that obama was dangerous for america. he said he's headed towards socialism and totalitarianism beyond your wildest imagination. his obsession with so-called
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czars, describing a term proudly launched by the republicans under nixon and reagan and not actually used by the current administration. >> we already know of at least five radical leftists currently advising the president of the united states. and these are just the ones who are open about their radical beliefs and far left ideas. we have our own czar. but it goes by a different name here. here he is, president. remember in history the czars were absolute rulers who answered to no one. that's not a good thing. >> beck is just part of the adl report which takes stock of the ugliest aspect of the rallies, birther movement, joe wilson's "you lie." the september 12th rally in washington the report notes featured the worst in racist, violent imagery since obama was
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elected, heavily promoted of course by beck, a man who projects his own hate on to others. >> this president, i think, has exposed himself as a guy over and over and over again who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture. i don't know what it is. i'm not saying that he doesn't like white people. i'm saying he has a problem. he has a -- this guy is, i believe, a racist. >> let's bring in the co-founder, editor in chief of the huffington post, arianna huffington. good evening. >> good evening, keith. >> it would be nice to think of glenn beck just as a joke as fodder for this show and the daily show that says something else. but the fearmonger in chief term is frightening. >> it is frightening. well, i would say the fearmonger in chief title should still be reserved for dick cheney, even in retirement. but barring that, there is something that we need to really pay attention to with glenn beck.
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we cannot just dismiss him. because the truth of the matter is the reason -- there is a good reason why we have an exemption to the free speech protection by the first amendment when we say you cannot shout fire in a crowded theater. and he's doing that every night. he's basically using images of violence to bring together with all that he's accusing the obama administration of, which varies from racism to communism, naziism. and everything else in between. so all that has definitely an impact. i believe words matter. language matters. and he's using it in incredibly irresponsible ways night after night. >> what do you say to the argument that this country has always self corrected, whether father coglin on the radio in
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the '30s or one that presented stuff made up on the hour in cbs news in the '30s or the columnist westbook pegler or senator joe mccarthy? all met a finale in which they exited the stage and suddenly. what is to say that that's not going to happen here? >> well, i hope it's going to happen. but it's not going to happen without people pointing out what glenn beck is doing. i mean, we saw how it worked with lou dobbs and john klein. john klein fired lou dobbs in the end from cnn. we all have a part to play in pointing out what glenn beck is doing. even though he may not be legally liable if violence ensues from what he does, he's morally liable and so is fox and rupert murdoch and roger ailes for keeping him on the air. >> some of beck's claims according to the report play an important role in drawing people further out of the mainstream making them more receptive to extreme notions and conspiracy theories. without going into sociology
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101, isn't the point here that people like beck enable some of the wildest, most paranoid notions about what the u.s. government is doing and instead of people thinking as they think these things, for whatever they think them, no, that's crazy, he says, no you're not crazy, come with me down this path? >> yes. but on top of it, keith, what makes it possible for glenn beck to enable and take advantage of what's happening is the fact that there's a lot of misery out there. there's a lot of legitimate anger. people are losing their jobs. they're losing their homes. or they're afraid of losing their jobs or losing their homes. so it's in this climate of often legitimate rage that glenn beck comes in and provides scapegoats. i mean, traditionally throughout history, these are the dangerous times. and that's why various establishments also need to become much more sensitive to what is happening out there and not leave it up to the glenn becks of the world to take
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advantage of what's happening. >> obviously, the new component to this is the race of the president. and a lot of this rage that we're discussing here is rooted in racism, something we certainly new before the adl put out its analysis. but beck tried unsuccessfully to turn that one in the other direction, claiming that mr. obama is the racist. is that the twist by which he and the other actual racists are rationalizing their own prejudice simply project it on to the other people? >> it is a classic case of projection. but even worse than glenn beck saying that is the fact that rupert murdoch endorsed it, all though then he took it away. or to have people like senator grassley giving away books of glenn beck. so this is really what the adl report is talking about, this sort of intersection between the mainstream and the extreme. there are always extremes. there are always paranoids who sound like russell crowe in "a beautiful mind" connecting
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everything and scaring everyone. but it's when that becomes part of the mainstream that it becomes dangerous. >> and apparently, by the way, mr. murdoch has seen that bank statement and the losses that he's had at the "new york post" because he's now backed off the backing off that you just mentioned, which we'll get to in a moment. it changes every day. i used to work for the man. i know. arianna huffington of the huffington post. amid an industry rumor that the book sold more than 500,000 copies in the first week, sarah palin comes up with a list of which newspapers and sites she reads. turns out she read the ones that offer her books for $5. when rachel joins you at the top of the hour, as palin says, it's okay to profile muslims. and as i just mentioned rupert murdoch defends one of his minions and today denies he defended him. atings. but only malibu has onstar. big deal. i'll just use my phone. let's say we crashed. whoops, you lost your phone and you're disoriented. i'm not disoriented.
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councilman says her book tops -- try that in english. her planned book tour stop at ft. hood is no more inappropriate than would be a visit by the dallas cowboy cheerleaders. first the worsts imbecility from a texas congressman, lonesome roads beck and the denial contradicted by his previous answer by his own reporter to rupert murdoch. avast ye matey. arghh. sits on top of skin, almost as if you're wearing it. only new dove deep moisture has nutriummoisture, a breakthrough formula with natural moisturizers... that can nourish deep down. it's the most effective natural nourishment ever. new dove deep moisture with nutriummoisture. superior natural nourishment for your skin. so i got my nephew to build a website. i hired someone to make my website... five months ago. we are building a website by ourselves.
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and news sites you read and the answer was newsmax. like answering beetle bailey. that's next. first number two story worst person in the world. rupert murdoch. media matters tried to pin him down on defense of beck's claim that president obama was a racist. murdoch said he didn't think the president was a racist but he did think beck was responding to a racist comment made by the president. now he's apparently denying that. first what he said to his own reporter, then what he says he didn't say. >> on the racist thing, that caused a racket but he did make a very racist comment. >> could you be more specific about what racist comments the president allegedly made? >> i denied that absolutely. >> you did -- >> looks like the pirate trolley has come off the pirate track, matey. the runner-up, congressman louie gohmert of texas, one of the gang of six idiots complaining about the terrorism trials in new york.
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well, gohmert knows his insane. he claims he was joking but by the way, congressman, thanks to you and that troclodyte president you supported we're at risk all the time here in new york. when did you suddenly start caring? our winner lonesome roads beck. norah o'donnell interviewed a teenage girl at a sarah palin book signing. she read what was on the t-shirt. the u.s. handed out $700 billion and all i got was this lousy t-shirt. she pointed out sarah palin supported the bailout, which surprised the young girl. beck took umbrage. not with the hypocrisy. they're going after a 13-year-old? his sycophant co-host asked -- >> did they ever do this to barack obama supporters during the campaign? you have to go after a 13-year-old? this is child abuse. i want to report this to some sort of, you know, department of health and children services or whatever it is for child abuse.
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what's the name of the young man who appeared in the pro s-chip ad? graham frost? the one that michelle malkin attacked? how old was he, 47? no, he's 12. how old was the girl with the heart condition that the national review attacked for being in the other schip ad? bethany wilkerson? 12? no, she was 2. how old was the gal that congressman shadegg brought to the floor held her up like a human shield. mattie? how old was she? 2? no, 7 months old. child abuse in politics, it is a right wing requirement. lonesome roads "when we do it it's cool, when you do it, you're hitler" beck, today's worst person in the world! depression is a serious medical condition that can take so much out of you. i feel like i have to wind myself up just to get out of bed. then...well... i have to keep winding myself up
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discussing the interview that changed everything, sarah palin writes in "going rogue" all she wanted at that time was a minute to breathe and drink and icy diet dr. pepper but that darn katie couric always bringing people down with pesky questions about books and newspapers and stuff other than dr. pepper. we all thought she couldn't think of any. she sure showed us. sarah palin finally reveals what she reads -- palin news digest in a moment. first the "going rogue" book tour bulldozing its way through indiana today. this afternoon, at a supermarket and a borders bookstore outside indianapolis this evening. first week sales more than a half million. meanwhile, palin continued her media blitz on fix news. asked about the tragedy in ft. hood, palin remarking major nidal hassan should have been profiled. as it turns out, she will next
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bring her book tour to. if hood, announcing that she will donate royalties in ft. hood to the families of the victims in ft. hood. but inevitably the conversation turned to the katie couric interview, palin telling oprah winfrey she had been annoyed by the question which is why she didn't answer it. this time palin took the moose by the antlers. >> she asked about what i read and i read -- i read newsmax and the frontiersman and "wall street journal" and everything online. i absorb the news via many, many sources. >> so now a quick look at the palin news digest to see exactly what she is absorbing. "the wall street journal," nothing unusual here, geithner under fire on economy. house panel approves broad fed audits. the frontiersman, hometown paper of wasilla, head coach of colony high football program steps down, indoor football franchise introduced to mat-su valley. wasilla to buy shopping center for expanded library. turning to newsmax, obama chats
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with top cuban blogger. author: obama letting liberals run the show. and sarah palin tells hannity: i read newsmax. she'll read a story about herself reading a story about herself. bring in msnbc political analyst, with cqpolitics.com. apparently not on the palin news digest. craig crawford, co-author of "listen up, mr. president. >> i don't know, since she says she reads everything online, maybe she reads my blog. i'll put a headline on there. >> try it and if it's not true you'll hear from her. >> right. >> a year and six weeks and she can't come up with anything better than newsmax? >> it doesn't suggest a wide range, does it? i would like to see politicians where they talk about something like this to show a little balance that they try to get information both sides, lead people to do that. we've got so many people just reading what they want to hear. in this case, newsmax, i actually read newsmax. i read talking points memo, huffington.
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i like to get a wide range. that would have been a better answer seems to me. i'm not telling her what to do. >> the answer i was told always just say the economists. no matter what. oh, you know what you're talking about. >> i'm for that now because the economist now owns cq roll call. >> almost related to that, if she did and has in fact read "the wall street journal" on a regular basis, why not just say that to katie couric a year ago? we might have -- that's when an answer like that might have been some use to her politically, might it not? >> certainly. i think that instinctual response is the more accurate or honest one, in any case with human nature. she's had all this time to think about it. at least she didn't come up with a list that didn't seem at all credible. this sounds like the kind of answer she might have given at the time if she thought about it. >> back to the book tour and this announcement she's going to go to ft. hood. my instinct on this is if it
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will cheer somebody up there, i guess i'm for it. but politically, isn't there an element of risk to doing this, a little sense of inappropriateness? >> even giving the royalties to the victims doesn't change the fact that it's part of her book tour and it does look very opportunistic. i just have a feeling that if al gore were to do this with a book, we'd be hearing a very different side of the story from places like newsmax. and if she goes there and talks to victims and tries to do something other than talk about her book, and if she gets very political, sure it can get back fire, even back fire on the folks at ft. hood in the end. >> this battle with the mccain campaign staff over what's in the book, senator mccain has not done so, but is he close to yelling at her? >> i imagine he would like to, keith. here's the problem for him doing that. then he has to implicitly anyway acknowledge that he was wrong to create her in the first place. so i think he's always going to have a tendency to want to defend that decision by not attacking her.
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>> yeah, that's the equivalent of saying, thank you for not voting for me. last point, oprah winfrey announced she'll end her talk show in 2011 if is it a coincidence after she interviewed sarah palin or cause and effect, rock bottom thing, now i've done everything and i have to leave or just simultaneous events? >> after that, there's just nothing left for oprah? if you have look at the ratings, it was a huge ratings hit for oprah. after all, oprah helped elect the current president. maybe she's going out having put the next one on its path. >> well, you know, people answer chain letters and e-mails from princes in nigeria to send money, so they do that, too. craig crawford of cqpolitics.com, msnbc, and possibly the sarah palin news digest. that's "countdown" for this 2,394th day since the previous president declared mission accomplished in iraq. i'm keith olbermann. here's the call to profile
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